New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. There are 244 comments there. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. Long, 22 pages. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Important facts released by family. Staging vs. Posing in the RL document it says the bodies were staged He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Aside from the sketches released, authorities have indicated that the killer left behind physical evidence. Thank u. Who says those videos are from him? Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. Wow, this is some incredible news. However, the investigators have made it clear over the years that they are not yet ready to release further information about what happened to the teens. Delphi Murders Update May 29, 2021: Police Now Suspect That BG Also Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. The investigation continued, and Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit BG is a 50 year old man. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides - Truth Tellers If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Top 3 Legends of All Time in Soccer America, Top 3 legends of All Time in Hollywood in America, Top 4 Major Cities in America of All Time. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. They're stills from the helicopter footage during the search. We park right at the front door. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? Please help me out here. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. I have to say that I noticed a lot of CSI activity at a location far from that bank. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Charles Eldridge was arrested in Union City, Indiana, in 2019, after he arranged to meet somebody he thought was a teenage girl for sex. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. I am thinking that maybe which ever one was pregnant may not have known. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Mr Kline was charged with 30 felonies in 2020 over the case. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. 7) Hes local. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (don't remember which group). Would you please email me? Photo Page - Delphi Homicides. Today we will Discuss about Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed. She described his eyes as dark and evil. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. How about getting your moneys worth? One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Almost zero. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. You might consider joining us in our private group. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. Since Libby and Abby were young, and the perpetrator is between 18 and 40, according to the statistics would that indicate a possible attempt to thwart the investigation? Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. We all stumble over our words sometimes. He is described as a white male aged between 16 and 40 years old, between 5 6 and 5 10 in height and weighing between 180 and 200 pounds. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? A massive search party was convened that night and the girls' bodies were found the next day, next to a creek. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. They think he did it. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. Easy, they were lying! He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. I love you and the information youre releasing! I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. Ron Logan: Enough already. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Yes it is all speculation. Alan, a 50-year-old married father of two children and a CVS technician, was taken into custody Friday and charged with two counts of manslaughter for the mysterious murders in Delphi. Bodies are also posed sometimes as a warning or message, like in revenge killings by the Mafia and various gangs, including narcos. I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Im the one who did it. Youre not necessarily going to get that so much with a blunt type of weapon, Morgan said. Thats because they havent been told shit. They have their own sources. For example, a rape victim being naked from the waist down and legs splayed might invoke shock but the victim was not posed specifically to shock- just left as is. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. One person wins and everyone else loses. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. They were town volunteers, right? Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. So, again, my understanding was, FBI agent was visiting family locally; assisted in search as volunteer; when it became apparent that something more serious/sinister could have happened after the girls were not located by dark, the FBI was requested by local pd and the locally visiting FBI agent facilitated the request. Too much points to them to be coincidence. Only a deer kit looks just like that. His home was searched and he was arrested shortly after the killings, but he was released and never charged. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. The two dates are perfect reversals of one another. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. The man who owns the document is not happy with us going public with these docs. If it's real, it's very sad, but it's likely people grasping at straws. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. And he never meets anyone for any reason. Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. Wheres the rest of it? If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. So you try to make it look like theres an accident. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. The rest are guardians. And fb, of course. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. Oh, one more thing, Jim. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. However, I do not believe it was sexually motivated, but believe theres potential for multiple motives. Some new info here. What? Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Its a farce! Which of them is LEs chief suspect? Wife left him. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. (Images via the FBI). You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Too fucking bad. No. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. The YouTube channel Zav Girl broke down the text messages in a video entitled "Text Messages from the Guy that found Abby and Libby? Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. The conviction is expunged. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. I have one more message for you. Background to the Delphi Murders On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. Ronald Logan was never named a suspect, despite the warrant. FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Delphi murder investigators focus on social media profile Watch on Who is the creator behind anthony_shots' fake profile? Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. I have the images but Im not sure they are accurate. Have for a long time. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. No, LK is the real deal. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. We have almost no information about the cause of death or what the crime scene looked like. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. The FBI has released a description for the suspect, which is that he is a white male between 5'6" and 5'8" tall. Can you spell out the name? Particularly this statement. See? But my opinion isnt worth anything. Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. Investigators also believed photographs or videos were likely shot of the grotesque set-up to 'memorialize' the crime scene. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. That would have been quite a problem. Today is the day.. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? Did he sleep? What are they doing to move this forward? Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. The doc is his property. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. It was also reported that a cyclist was murdered on the same trail around the same time Nations was threatening the hikers. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Why do kids play make-believe? They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Theres only one parent. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. That is when they discovered the fake anthony_shots profile, soliciting minor girls online. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. They all go off and do their own work. He has connections with current LE officers. He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. I cant demand that my friends give me money! 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Of course they would look for that. How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? Corn fields? Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Nations was connected to the Delphi murder because of the similarities between the crimes, and because he bore a strong resemblance to the preliminary police sketch of the Delphi suspect. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Allen told investigators on Oct. 13, 2022, that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day, according to the probable cause affidavit. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. As if her murder itself wasn't mysterious enough, the case would see twists, turns, and dead ends along with mysteries within the mystery. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. If it is not a serial killer, it can be too confrontational.Still, you never know and for sure a creepy idea. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Text messages have been circulating online regarding the case, as has speculation about some of the evidence that is being kept under wraps. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. Did anyone here see the crime scene photo(s)? - reddit As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Investigators have never revealed how the girls died or disclosed details about the crime scene. Thank you for stopping by the site. "In a small town, in a place where there's a small amount of traffic on this abandoned railroad bridge your suspect pool is fairly small," Garrett said, so police likely concentrated their investigation on Delphi and the surrounding communities. At least two prior marriages. Also, I was interested in whether you may be able to cover Harmony Montgomerys case? The girls bodies were discovered on his . Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. We have no idea why the order was issued. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that - reddit My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. Suspect: Ok, you got me. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Crime scene photos leaked? She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. 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LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. We doubt if she did contact his wife. . You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. A mystery man was captured in a grainy video taken on Libby's phone the day of her. The suspect in a still from the video taken on Libby German's phone. Amazing work! Thomas Bruce, a former pastor, was charged with fatally shooting one woman and sexually assaulting two others at aCatholic Supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, in November 2018. Again, not saying that he did it. Thank you so much! Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. Come on, people. Its not free though. For more than five years, the families of the two girls have been searching for answers as to what happened and who was responsible for their murders.
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